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in this but if you make that account I

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get a dollar so why not you know help

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aggregate on your phone and give me a

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dollar also my other huge focus right

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now is the conspiracy themed t-shirt

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we're growing slowly but now that we

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label in that [\h__\h] they're really nice

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day straight from the chest to everyone

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they meet because as dumb as it sounds I

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really do feel that way so please go to

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conspiracies net and look at what we got

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UFO is building the pyramids is the

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third one and we got more coming and I'm

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super psyched about it so please support

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that for Christ's sake and so those the

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yeah I'm gonna stop wasting your time so

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thanks pimps here's the new podcast with

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patrick Shannara these are you when they

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America that can you recall drive you

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through the USA America's the greatest

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land of all on a highway or a road along

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a levee but pharmacist later nothing can

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hello higher side shatters today we're

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going marred with catchin our delights

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I'm researcher and archaeology lost

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civilizations Atlantis and alternatives

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the conventional story of man's origin

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you've heard him on coast to coast twice

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this year already and his new book

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forgotten world's just released on

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- world.com he keeps his pimp hand

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strong he's proud of it Pat my man

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thanks for being here

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hey are you doing I'm doing well man um

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hey I so paint a picture for us when did

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you start digging in the dirt and what

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directors for the central both Gulf

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Coast Archaeological Society and

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basically I was tired of it you know we

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really a kind of a resentful type

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atmosphere to anything new or

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new Archaeology review which was my

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magazine these guys they were all for me

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as long as you know far as you know

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having a platform that was consistent

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with their theories but the internet

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start to deviate from those Stokes ideas

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the grand Hancock's fingerprints of the

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gods and the works of Robert Schoch and

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different people that nature if you will

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teacher [\h__\h] where how do you know

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tearing race which was the human race

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fiction and then go that name through

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fiction really have the grasp of what

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our destiny and space was and that was

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legacy for the Terran race for the

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future for our children and our

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children's children have a right on what

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like Terran society that you're trying

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to start up what is that it's something

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to try to unify humanity yeah yeah the

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Terran nation I believe that together we

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we're worth nothing and all these who

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is people we find to sadness faster with

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ideal must permeate to everything that

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religion in the Middle Ages transformed

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wrong reasons and it did it in a very

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negative format I have every egative way

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obviously witch burnings and in the

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massacres and then and in their interest

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consciousness and that's much better

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a I got a hug for Terry and radium that

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sense of purpose that doesn't work

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way to create production and to subdue

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seeking a nice foot floor I mean that's

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fair but on some people say that you

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know bill well some people say that

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certain countries are put against each

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other to you know be via war or other

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means to stimulate economies and if we

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could really bypass that like for

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The Venus Project or a resource-based

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economy but those are economic

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structures as well but they seem to fit

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in better with a unified humanity they

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seem to put that idea forward more I

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don't know if you you are like what is

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the enterprise because you know that's

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very dear to a lot of people and you

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just become for you now stand this way

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so I came down for fourth tomorrow and

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got up there and put lots of people said

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I'm gonna put I'm gonna put new economic

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system in either get rid of the free

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enterprise system forever all the people

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with your hand right that's the people

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coming down on yeah they're gonna stay

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by the communists you just socialist II

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just a bottle of our yeah whatever they

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gonna work that ways you have to be

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middle ground when you deal with things

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which are very true to people that's why

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you have to you have to accommodate

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certain things which you don't really

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want to accommodate but if you're going

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to compromise you have to be diplomatic

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about it and you have to compromise in a

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way that will bring in people and not

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alienate too because what I'm saying

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yeah I gotcha that's there we don't when

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it comes to these these ancient stories

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is ancient um you know I guess they'd be

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inconsistencies from what conventional

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history tells us you know in the

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conspiracy world you got a widely

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accepted beliefs that there are there is

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a group of people a small group of

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people that knows the true history and

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has systematically stamped out other

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groups historical records and writing so

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they could kind of rewrite history to

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best suit their biggest brainwashing

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program at the time what you mentioned

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was Christianity but from your research

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you see

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any evidence that you know these new

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discoveries that contradicts traditional

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models are out there and do you think

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that the resistance to accept that is

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part of that conditioning or do you

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think it's just you know people are just

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afraid of change do you think it's that

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simple or is it more interesting that's

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ok you look at any any type of you look

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at history and is replete with example

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the people who are resistant to change

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but you see that creates more than just

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resistance that it creates a core of

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resistance and that core resistance

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become in itself it's own conspiracy and

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because of that it begins to develop

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tentacles these tentacles go into every

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facet of government and society and

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religion and they are ones they're

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creating the conspiracy because they're

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resistant to that chain they don't want

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to see their their beloved's ideals

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their religion their their politics to

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to be destroyed I don't think this is a

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one small specific group out there that

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is plotting a you know to overthrow a

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form of change I don't think they need

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any sound I don't believe that gives

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Illuminati I don't believe in the idea

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of the worldwide Jewish conspiracy which

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in the early 20th century was a big

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thing and not that Germany and so forth

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and so on but what I do think I do think

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this resistance is developing its own

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conspiracy in its own right and that

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something which needs to be bought it's

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called the paradigm and this paradigm

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must be eliminated at whatever costs

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because it is is destroying a possible

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future which could really change and

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alter the destiny of mankind and they're

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just totally undermining that that

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possibility to their to their resistance

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to this new truth it's arising with many

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people all around the world

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this you awareness to this new desire to

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see change put forth well that's where

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it gets difficult to know exactly who

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and what to believe because we know that

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the government has lied to us yeah we

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know so that's that's an automatic so

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then you get buy-in in terms of you know

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human history let's say they think it's

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only so many thousand years old and then

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you got other people who say they see

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water erosion marks on the Sphinx and

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then they see underground ruins or not

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under grunt well underground - but

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underwater ruins you know like the

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Graham Hancock book and it leads every

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adult that well how deep does it go you

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know because then you got people like

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Andy passagio who's going around giving

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lectures saying that he's involved in

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jump room programs to Mars and it's like

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you know you can't believe the

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government but it opens it up the whole

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but the Pandora's Box is open all these

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things and you know I'm hoping you can

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help me cut through some of that at

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least in terms of sure human history as

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far as what you would consider unusual

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claims in child's the paradigm and then

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really insane ideas like Bigfoot is

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living in the White House all right you

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would call really ingenious ideas like

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that like Rob Cox evaluates to the

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spring Brown Anthony but less evaluation

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of ancient Europe that is how do you

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need to Egypt rather that is very

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significant but yeah when you get into

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the thing where you where you totally I

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called up on coast to coast as I just

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came from the other side of the Moon all

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right well maybe anything is possible

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but you know you turn your back and

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you're kind of laughing so probably

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right you know there's what you would

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call the insane ideas and there's a

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really noble attempt to establish a new

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paradigm and you really have to sip

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through there but that's where science

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comes in even if science is is is is

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diluted to a point where it's not rigid

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you know it's not fold skeptics who

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debunk every drive along but if you can

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keep a balance in this in the process of

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science then you have something as to

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getting it because science is a

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self-correcting

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blah sofy if you open the doors properly

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okay then you have system where where if

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if it doesn't amount to the evidence

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then that just goes to the wayside but

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this is the insidious thing what the

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paradigm is you can have that evidence

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and you can have that proof but it's not

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good enough they still want to debunk it

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regardless and they want to take their

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own ideas and they want to grasp on to

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it and distort it and put it in a point

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that it doesn't have any validity

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whatsoever even though if I had that

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validity well what do you think is the

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most damning evidence that you've seen

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that really does create like it creates

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a situation where it really can't be

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denied and we really have to look at it

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and we can't turn the other cheek in

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terms of our origin stories I mean

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headway I mean evidence engines out is a

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world is replete with such example then

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let me let me just go over a few of them

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let's do it

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so the first of them is gobekli tepe are

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you really with that site I've heard

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about it yeah all right let's say I

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Drive it for the panel the past for the

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past 300 years the story has been that

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ancient Sumer has been the original

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civilizations of before ancient material

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before before Mesopotamia there was no

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significant form of civilization or

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advancement or massive structures but

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then all of a sudden around the mid 20

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century we were trying to discover

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evidence but this is not the case we

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bind Jericho which dates back to 9000

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BCE we have we have catalhoyuk and in

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Turkey which dates back to about that

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same time we have several other types of

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turkeys that date back to well before

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that period but when we discovered go

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back with cap by we have a structure

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which dates back to 12,000 BCE you know

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that's that's all

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so that's 14,000 years ago and according

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to mainstream archaeologists or should I

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have been any form of massive structures

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or architecture 14,000 years ago instead

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of them people huddling in caves and

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even though they you know this alkalized

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community is that against it they openly

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admit and research and document that you

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know gobekli tepe

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is a verifiable fact it means right here

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for you and then you hold it is it so

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they they basically agree on that point

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but at the same time if you read any of

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their textbooks from high school or

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college or even elementary school it

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still teach the kids that the world as a

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civilization is no earlier than 3500 BC

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and is located in ancient Sumer no man

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tries to these textbooks of go back from

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kept a a vehicle of any of these other

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sites exist outside of the original

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mainstream paradigm which was starting

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hundred years ago well tell me about

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this this lost set of ruins it's

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speculated to be millions of years old

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off the coast of Scotland in Norway

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yeah that's fascinating is is there is a

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site also optical some scotland in

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norway which is submerged on the ocean

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bottom it dates back to 75 million years

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and that is a verifiable fact now

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compare when you look at that you see

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things that could not be natural

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formations well that's the thing you

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know it's hanumant studied well enough

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what yet to come to that conclusion

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there are anomalies but there's no

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definite conclusion yet whether there's

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anything unnatural but the fact that

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that structure discs can only bring up

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possibilities in one's mind about what

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on earth could exist down there if we

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were to go and use some type of

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submariner

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the Asians of the site now is that

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really possible right now with our

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present technology and see the fact is

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all the way up the Obama's bottom of the

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North Sea but if we look at it and see

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the back ends Valley the mountains and

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river systems in it's only you can only

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wonder instance possibly some type of

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civilization now you have to look at it

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from Franco's perspective Michael crane

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Lowe's perspective who he always says

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that you know Nancy is more than just a

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couple million years old you know it

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existed in his civilization goes back

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you know several million years now if

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that's the case then it makes it

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possible if in fact what he's saying is

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possible are true that these civil this

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dispositive structure could have once

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contained a human civilization sure now

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what makes him say that that is millions

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of years old well he did say the site

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with millions of years old he says

510
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humanity's billions of years all right

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well right right what makes him think

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that he says that because he believes

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from examining such sources as a

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Sanskrit writings of India from evidence

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as he finds in in the fossil record of

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anatomical modern humans dating back 660

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million BC or even greater as there's

518
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many there's much physical evidence in

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the archaeological record to assume that

520
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now these are anomalies but nevertheless

521
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they have been confirmed and if you read

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his book forbidden archeology it says

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that right there that fact you know you

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read is a brilliant book as filled with

525
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page after page after page of lists and

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cataloging of anomalies of ancient

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prehistoric remains of humans to defect

528
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more so than they were supposed to

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existed originally which is around the

530
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five million BC mark BCE mark

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it goes back 65 million years 600

532
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million years even greater let's talk

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about the methods I mean it's carbon-14

534
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dating is the only thing I've ever heard

535
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about as far as things that you know oh

536
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and water erosion that's another method

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of determining age but how reliable is

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carbon-14 then I've heard that it's not

539
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quite as reliable as people once thought

540
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it was well that is our idea propagated

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by the Christian creationist who are

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unsatisfied with the conclusions put

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forward by by evolutionist God planted

544
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fossils to [\h__\h] with us yeah yeah so

545
00:25:35,419 --> 00:25:32,670
basic so there's no incredible that

546
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:35,429
thinks that carbon-14 dating isn't

547
00:25:39,740 --> 00:25:38,370
reliable that's pretty much it's pretty

548
00:25:42,350 --> 00:25:39,750
much standard that that's the method

549
00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:42,360
that's trusted yeah exactly

550
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:46,260
gotcha so is that is it is it carbon

551
00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:48,330
dating that is Danny oh yeah nobody

552
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:51,510
sings so far back it's based on

553
00:25:58,430 --> 00:25:54,210
carbon-14 dating and sedimentation

554
00:26:01,820 --> 00:25:58,440
layers that that was used to to to

555
00:26:05,299 --> 00:26:01,830
determine the age of these ancient

556
00:26:08,810 --> 00:26:05,309
modern anatomical modern humans that

557
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:08,820
dated back 65 million years and the

558
00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:11,730
dinosaur time exactly and if it's

559
00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:14,070
amazing about it so how is conventional

560
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:16,020
science able to than either livre I

561
00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:18,210
would believer in the antiquity of the

562
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:22,140
human race at the same time I'm not so

563
00:26:30,169 --> 00:26:26,150
much into cradles idea of a pure energy

564
00:26:32,780 --> 00:26:30,179
devolve into base matter and its

565
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:32,790
spiritual aspect to the anti new age

566
00:26:38,419 --> 00:26:36,000
sorry aspect and all that I definitely

567
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:38,429
believe in a sense of an evolution of

568
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:40,290
the human race I just didn't look back

569
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:43,250
much farther than we originally thought

570
00:26:48,830 --> 00:26:46,050
so how is conventional science able to

571
00:26:53,630 --> 00:26:48,840
deny the dating on some of these

572
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:53,640
structures we always approach it they

573
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:55,410
just it's off the table they just turn a

574
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,480
blind eye well they don't even want to

575
00:27:00,340 --> 00:26:59,760
know I mean there's plenty of sites in

576
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:00,350
Peru all

577
00:27:06,970 --> 00:27:02,690
so you know not necessarily date wise

578
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:06,980
but just structurally they're so intense

579
00:27:12,250 --> 00:27:09,679
they would be hard to build for people

580
00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:12,260
of adage you know you got the Machu

581
00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:15,590
Picchu Machu Picchu is that Machu Picchu

582
00:27:21,580 --> 00:27:17,150
the ancient aliens talk about it all the

583
00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:21,590
time yeah I think it is calling a llama

584
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:24,200
cuckoo I think it's called it's in a

585
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:27,710
write a couple of anak oh yeah laughs I

586
00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:30,320
know I owe you that name they stuck some

587
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:35,140
a cuckoo cuckoo yeah yeah politely

588
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:39,890
um it it seems pretty crazy that we'd be

589
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:41,770
able to build that without any type of

590
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:43,970
serious hardware you know like they

591
00:27:47,409 --> 00:27:45,650
apparently just built it with style

592
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:47,419
where I come in with my fearing of

593
00:27:54,490 --> 00:27:50,960
giants i think that i think the mists

594
00:27:57,970 --> 00:27:54,500
that we that we have grown up on about

595
00:28:00,399 --> 00:27:57,980
giants in god's i don't believe they're

596
00:28:01,090 --> 00:28:00,409
misconstrued extraterrestrial encounters

597
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:01,100
at all

598
00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:05,450
i think they are in fact the residence

599
00:28:12,010 --> 00:28:09,860
of a very ancient memory of real gods

600
00:28:15,070 --> 00:28:12,020
and real giants that once inhabited

601
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:15,080
earth that evolved on this planet over

602
00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:17,809
billions of years I mean our planet you

603
00:28:22,029 --> 00:28:18,740
guys think about it

604
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:22,039
it's four billion years old in that time

605
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:26,000
the plenty of time for a advanced race

606
00:28:31,529 --> 00:28:29,690
to evolve why why just because this is

607
00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:31,539
all we know so far about human evolution

608
00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:34,600
why does that preclude any other

609
00:28:40,299 --> 00:28:38,059
possibilities and even right now as I'm

610
00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:40,309
saying is it's just a possibility and

611
00:28:43,149 --> 00:28:41,900
I've taken that possibility and I've

612
00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:43,159
speculated on it

613
00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:45,470
relax minutes mere speculation at this

614
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,270
point there's not a whole lot of proof

615
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:48,880
other than the mythological

616
00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:51,710
preponderance of the fact that we have

617
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:54,580
so much about that in our ancient

618
00:28:59,860 --> 00:28:56,960
mythology that it must mean something

619
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,870
beyond just people sitting down and

620
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:02,240
making up stories right well now I did

621
00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:05,570
see a giant skeleton that was going

622
00:29:10,060 --> 00:29:07,070
around on the internet pictures of it

623
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:10,070
from Peru or dig in Peru I believe but

624
00:29:16,659 --> 00:29:13,220
then I heard that was considered a hoax

625
00:29:19,060 --> 00:29:16,669
here we go back to our conspiracy theory

626
00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:19,070
alright yeah I need to get what I feel

627
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:21,460
at home okay great

628
00:29:28,649 --> 00:29:27,289
you know how do we know that the picture

629
00:29:32,110 --> 00:29:28,659
which was faked

630
00:29:35,139 --> 00:29:32,120
isn't itself part of that conspiracy how

631
00:29:38,169 --> 00:29:35,149
do we know that that force themselves

632
00:29:39,789 --> 00:29:38,179
could be verified and it just a matter

633
00:29:42,269 --> 00:29:39,799
of the people finding them that don't

634
00:29:45,220 --> 00:29:42,279
want the word to get out there are

635
00:29:48,970 --> 00:29:45,230
fabricating these these hoaxes these

636
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:48,980
fake pictures to cause misinformation

637
00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:51,769
now that's not the first time the

638
00:29:57,070 --> 00:29:53,870
government on this planet would do

639
00:29:59,799 --> 00:29:57,080
something off sure not at all not at all

640
00:30:02,409 --> 00:29:59,809
so why why do we have to immediately

641
00:30:05,169 --> 00:30:02,419
assume that there's nothing to these

642
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:05,179
reports a lot of people claim to have

643
00:30:11,230 --> 00:30:08,690
seen it and there's a bell on mysterious

644
00:30:15,310 --> 00:30:11,240
activities in those desert in in India

645
00:30:16,899 --> 00:30:15,320
and Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia which

646
00:30:19,419 --> 00:30:16,909
were the main sites - these things were

647
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,429
discovered in right you know if I gravy

648
00:30:23,019 --> 00:30:21,200
that's why our military's over there you

649
00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:23,029
know I've heard that carries over there

650
00:30:26,830 --> 00:30:24,230
why not

651
00:30:29,049 --> 00:30:26,840
white white what would we exclude the

652
00:30:32,529 --> 00:30:29,059
possibility it's all part of some

653
00:30:35,289 --> 00:30:32,539
conspiracy to begin with it's tough to

654
00:30:37,509 --> 00:30:35,299
know is tough to know but you have to

655
00:30:40,659 --> 00:30:37,519
least talk about it you actually bring

656
00:30:45,220 --> 00:30:40,669
that that possibility up and if I have

657
00:30:47,019 --> 00:30:45,230
done in Clash of the Giants okay which

658
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:47,029
is my next book that's coming after

659
00:30:53,289 --> 00:30:49,960
forgotten world's the one after that is

660
00:30:58,990 --> 00:30:53,299
grasping the Dragons which is a book

661
00:31:01,840 --> 00:30:59,000
which looks at the legends and the myths

662
00:31:03,610 --> 00:31:01,850
of dragons if they are everywhere and

663
00:31:04,899 --> 00:31:03,620
like almost every young ancient culture

664
00:31:07,210 --> 00:31:04,909
we're told their cultures didn't

665
00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:07,220
communicate as some sort of dragon this

666
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:09,950
is shadow the dreams of everybody from

667
00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:14,000
from Scandinavia to India to China in

668
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,169
into the new world so you know I was at

669
00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:20,240
a dinosaur is that the manifestation of

670
00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:25,070
I gradually needed something else okay

671
00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:27,590
dream is to a dragon than it is to a

672
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,180
well are we talking you know just like

673
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:35,840
are we talking fire-breathing dragons

674
00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:38,450
are we talking flying dragon exactly

675
00:31:42,790 --> 00:31:40,190
pterodactyls that breathe fire well what

676
00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:42,800
what what makes you think that dragons

677
00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:44,750
are real outside of the idea that they

678
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:46,550
weren't all these myths with it which is

679
00:31:51,580 --> 00:31:48,770
a huge mystery in itself but is there

680
00:31:55,690 --> 00:31:51,590
any evidence to support the idea that we

681
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:55,700
lived at a time of dragons will install

682
00:32:00,160 --> 00:31:57,770
the reverences I mean there is numerous

683
00:32:01,930 --> 00:32:00,170
historic weapons at all through the

684
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:01,940
ancient accounts all the way from

685
00:32:08,530 --> 00:32:06,200
Herodotus to Marco Polo to I mean the

686
00:32:11,980 --> 00:32:08,540
historical references are replete and

687
00:32:14,980 --> 00:32:11,990
then you have in ancient excuse me

688
00:32:17,290 --> 00:32:14,990
medieval Europe numerous historical

689
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:17,300
accounts of dragons being seen

690
00:32:22,330 --> 00:32:19,730
throughout there now why I basically

691
00:32:24,790 --> 00:32:22,340
think that dragons are not really

692
00:32:30,010 --> 00:32:24,800
dinosaurs they're not part of the

693
00:32:32,830 --> 00:32:30,020
traditional dinosaur species either

694
00:32:35,380 --> 00:32:32,840
related to dinosaurs and I think they're

695
00:32:38,590 --> 00:32:35,390
a separate species a separate line now

696
00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:38,600
there were a group of dragon lot

697
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:42,460
creatures that existed prior to the

698
00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:47,120
emergence of dinosaurs and in the age

699
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:49,940
before that which is the I believe was

700
00:32:55,570 --> 00:32:52,070
the Triassic prior to the Triassic

701
00:33:00,790 --> 00:32:55,580
period a Triassic epoch of prehistory

702
00:33:03,790 --> 00:33:00,800
and so the mass extinction was wiped out

703
00:33:06,130 --> 00:33:03,800
most of the blogged reptiles now the

704
00:33:08,530 --> 00:33:06,140
interesting thing is is that I think

705
00:33:11,530 --> 00:33:08,540
that these two these creatures

706
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:11,540
these dragons survived that period and

707
00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:16,880
survived the mass extinction of of 55

708
00:33:26,410 --> 00:33:22,060
million BC BCE rather as I use a term

709
00:33:30,430 --> 00:33:26,420
and survived that expanse extinction and

710
00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:30,440
in fact continued onwards through the

711
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:34,390
historical period now Carroll Fontaine

712
00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:39,110
from Andover University she

713
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:41,960
he's a professor of U of T through

714
00:33:49,690 --> 00:33:45,200
scriptures and she may be disseminated

715
00:33:54,550 --> 00:33:49,700
via idea presented the idea that it's a

716
00:33:59,140 --> 00:33:54,560
possibility that diocese me dragons were

717
00:34:01,720 --> 00:33:59,150
real but it was so prized for their for

718
00:34:04,690 --> 00:34:01,730
their for their bodies and their their

719
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:04,700
their the medicinal purposes there is a

720
00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:07,010
wealth watching the same way we group we

721
00:34:13,390 --> 00:34:10,270
drove many other creatures to extinction

722
00:34:16,570 --> 00:34:13,400
for their pelts and their in their in

723
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:16,580
their feathers I you know but we draw

724
00:34:20,290 --> 00:34:18,530
these creatures to extinct him because

725
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:20,300
when you look at the historical record

726
00:34:26,919 --> 00:34:23,690
ever since there was a reference to a

727
00:34:29,830 --> 00:34:26,929
dragon the reference to a human being

728
00:34:32,409 --> 00:34:29,840
seeking it out and trying to destroy it

729
00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:32,419
at least in the Western sense right and

730
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:37,220
that is true but if these creatures you

731
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,650
know survived a lot longer than

732
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,320
dinosaurs why aren't we finding their

733
00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:44,960
omens we may have and just have an

734
00:34:50,190 --> 00:34:48,260
identified them as dragons yet I mean

735
00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:50,200
there's many there have been many

736
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:55,340
examples of you know fossils that have

737
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:58,130
been found then having been identified

738
00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:01,280
immediately as a specific animal has

739
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:02,990
been assumed to be a different animal

740
00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:05,210
and a line and as time went on we're

741
00:35:09,130 --> 00:35:07,190
discovered to be belonging to a totally

742
00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:09,140
different animal sure now that is true

743
00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:11,660
but what now what about the dating

744
00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:14,080
because they could they not date those

745
00:35:19,210 --> 00:35:17,240
those bones and find out from around the

746
00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:19,220
same time period as the dinosaurs most

747
00:35:23,770 --> 00:35:21,830
of the video the dragon done optimized

748
00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:23,780
there was like it would come around from

749
00:35:30,610 --> 00:35:25,640
the same time period unless of course

750
00:35:32,890 --> 00:35:30,620
they were from a period say from days of

751
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:32,900
mammals in which you know you would have

752
00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:36,650
a example you know they would be dead to

753
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:38,630
the age of mammals what if they were

754
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:40,250
anything if they were found and they

755
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:43,370
were found in a strata that would say

756
00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:45,200
from the Cretaceous period of the

757
00:35:51,740 --> 00:35:47,380
Jurassic period of the Triassic period

758
00:35:53,570 --> 00:35:51,750
you know there would be no telling or no

759
00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:53,580
regi Asian from down in some other

760
00:35:59,660 --> 00:35:56,550
species of dinosaur okay now have we

761
00:36:03,530 --> 00:35:59,670
ever found human remains that old yes we

762
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:03,540
have we have we have where was that at

763
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:05,370
because is that common knowledge because

764
00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:07,290
it doesn't say that each coding es you

765
00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:09,720
take out forbidden archeology in fact I

766
00:36:15,830 --> 00:36:12,660
think it's like I'm page 225 forbidden

767
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:15,840
archeology they have a families if they

768
00:36:22,660 --> 00:36:19,050
have more than one example of anatomical

769
00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:22,670
modern humans being found that old Wow

770
00:36:27,830 --> 00:36:26,460
yeah so what walk us through because

771
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:27,840
we're all over the map here walk us

772
00:36:34,460 --> 00:36:30,480
through what you think the history of

773
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:34,470
man looks like okay basically I see but

774
00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:37,470
they met many rises and falls technology

775
00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:40,020
why is the whole the whole history of

776
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:44,190
mankind has been punctuated by rises

777
00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:48,750
involved mass extinctions periods of

778
00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:51,840
great so lakes of sophistication and in

779
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:54,060
periods of great darkness and less

780
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,850
technology and it took a long time to

781
00:37:01,460 --> 00:36:58,560
build up to be back to that technology

782
00:37:02,990 --> 00:37:01,470
as I said again and you guys understand

783
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:03,000
where I'm coming from I'm very much a

784
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:04,640
mythologist more other than

785
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:10,050
archaeologists but there is examples in

786
00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:17,160
kali upas of ancient india in the in the

787
00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:21,780
popular mayan calendar in which in the

788
00:37:29,090 --> 00:37:24,380
bourse what's happening in this year you

789
00:37:32,570 --> 00:37:29,100
have the calendar of Brosius a a sick

790
00:37:35,330 --> 00:37:32,580
century BC Babylonian priests who wrote

791
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:35,340
the history of mankind getting back one

792
00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:38,670
about 100,000 here excuse me one hundred

793
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:43,260
thousand years so you have a large a

794
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:49,350
rich rich treasure trove of of beliefs

795
00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:53,850
and and and ideas which state that

796
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:57,510
mankind indeed sublation itself is part

797
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:00,240
of a massive roller coaster of history

798
00:38:04,070 --> 00:38:02,610
going with peaks and valleys up and down

799
00:38:04,580 --> 00:38:04,080
over long periods of time rather than

800
00:38:07,220 --> 00:38:04,590
this

801
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:07,230
one you know came in at the bottom and

802
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:09,690
the strike straight line graph with many

803
00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:12,110
kind at the top as the pinnacle of

804
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:15,150
evolutionary success you have to look at

805
00:38:20,270 --> 00:38:17,640
from a cyclical standpoint and that's a

806
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:20,280
very ancient standpoint we want that

807
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:23,280
sense of cyclical history over a period

808
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:25,710
of time and that's basically how I think

809
00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:28,730
the whole reps of human history

810
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:31,500
structured on its technical level all

811
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:33,210
right I mean I kind of put that in the

812
00:38:38,060 --> 00:38:36,210
same category as people who thought the

813
00:38:39,410 --> 00:38:38,070
earth was the center of the universe and

814
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:39,420
this and that is also the same thought

815
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:42,030
that we are the first and only rise of

816
00:38:45,860 --> 00:38:43,680
man you know it's kind of the say thank

817
00:38:47,570 --> 00:38:45,870
you I totally understand totally except

818
00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:47,580
that there could have been many other

819
00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:51,150
rises and falls and what I when I

820
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:53,070
connect that to the conspiracy I think

821
00:38:58,820 --> 00:38:56,010
if that were to happen today if we had a

822
00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:58,830
huge Cataclysm and 95% of the population

823
00:39:03,620 --> 00:39:01,020
was wiped out who would survive it would

824
00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:03,630
probably be those elites that have the

825
00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:07,230
resources to protect themselves in that

826
00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:08,940
time and if they were to rebuild the

827
00:39:15,590 --> 00:39:13,470
planet they could warp any any current

828
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,600
history stories or anything and actually

829
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:17,040
raise their own children to believe

830
00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:19,560
whatever they wanted them to and if they

831
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:21,150
could restructure society as they saw

832
00:39:24,830 --> 00:39:22,350
fit so when you look at some of these

833
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:24,840
old writings and how they've kind of

834
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:27,150
been altered um through the translation

835
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:30,450
it's kind of funny because I I could see

836
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:32,010
the ticular nature of that happening

837
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:34,770
well it's only that I mean it's you know

838
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:37,320
already from from dealmaker areas

839
00:39:42,020 --> 00:39:40,110
amounts of age so to speak out enough of

840
00:39:43,790 --> 00:39:42,030
the mainstream archeologists the

841
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:43,800
mainstream anthropologist we already

842
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:46,530
know from very perspective but this has

843
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:48,570
already habitants been recorded in our

844
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,930
genetics about 100,000 years ago there

845
00:39:56,570 --> 00:39:54,240
was a catalyst of on earth that wiped

846
00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:56,580
out nearly every human being on planet

847
00:40:04,160 --> 00:39:59,490
tape about a hundred to 50 people

848
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:04,170
Wow now the way we know this is it's

849
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:08,250
called a bottleneck and to explain this

850
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:16,290
um basically Neanderthals had a genetic

851
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:18,510
diversity level of about

852
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:23,210
18% the highest among all hominids now

853
00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:27,110
compare these have about an 11%

854
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:31,380
diversity level now we have about a one

855
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:33,720
percent that means that every difference

856
00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:36,810
that we see on this planet racially

857
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:40,940
ethnically is one percent of that

858
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:45,690
general diversity level originally we

859
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:48,660
had much higher diversity level but

860
00:40:53,770 --> 00:40:50,970
because we were trimmed down to such an

861
00:40:58,340 --> 00:40:53,780
extent we went through a period in which

862
00:41:02,090 --> 00:40:58,350
right how many of those genetic codes

863
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:02,100
survived but and we only had a much

864
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:05,340
smaller amount of diversity in that that

865
00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:09,930
that decrease in diversity is a lasting

866
00:41:14,570 --> 00:41:12,270
testament to the fact there was a great

867
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:14,580
Cataclysm just about wiped out the whole

868
00:41:21,110 --> 00:41:16,650
you've been raised and then we started

869
00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:21,120
in about 100,000 years ago right on yeah

870
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:23,580
think about how great a diversity if you

871
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:26,400
think of all the genetic differences are

872
00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:30,000
in 1% out I mean think about 13% you

873
00:41:36,770 --> 00:41:31,470
know you could be talking about Giants

874
00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:36,780
huh yeah exactly and and you know

875
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:39,840
someone else in the interview with Mark

876
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:40,470
Murphy

877
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:43,950
but yesterday and he was commenting back

878
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:46,070
that you know an ancient Indian

879
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:50,250
depictions of India uh many of these

880
00:41:54,830 --> 00:41:53,220
gods had blue skin and you know really

881
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:54,840
that's not too far from the truth we

882
00:41:59,660 --> 00:41:57,090
have no idea what color skin el aula

883
00:42:02,720 --> 00:41:59,670
varieties of skin tone there was back

884
00:42:05,450 --> 00:42:02,730
there I mean for all we know there could

885
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:05,460
be purple with pink color God to seek

886
00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:08,880
anomalous is really not right um but you

887
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:10,980
know it's just say yeah we don't know we

888
00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:13,290
don't know what all all there was back

889
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:15,750
then you know it would be because a bad

890
00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:17,730
individuals with hair all over their

891
00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:19,500
bodies as there are in some

892
00:42:24,290 --> 00:42:22,380
circumstances today well how do you feel

893
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:24,300
about you know

894
00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:26,610
so you think instead of the engineer

895
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:28,470
aliens Theory you think that there was

896
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:31,080
just such crazy biodiversity here on the

897
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:31,920
planet with

898
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:35,640
in races of hominids that were natural

899
00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:36,650
to earth

900
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:39,240
yeah are they at different technology

901
00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:40,650
levels are they interacting with each

902
00:42:46,610 --> 00:42:43,980
other little bit why not why not look at

903
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:46,620
our own civilization there are examples

904
00:42:51,410 --> 00:42:48,510
of people on this planet who still live

905
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:51,420
extremely primitive why is truly

906
00:42:55,850 --> 00:42:53,910
primitive levels of existence and you

907
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:55,860
have New York City which is probably the

908
00:43:01,790 --> 00:42:57,540
pinnacle of technological sophistication

909
00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:01,800
on this planet so we have already in our

910
00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:05,580
own societies enormous sighted changes

911
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:08,760
and alterations over the geography world

912
00:43:13,820 --> 00:43:11,910
with different levels of technology so

913
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:13,830
it would not be too far from the truth

914
00:43:21,110 --> 00:43:17,310
to say that you know that at one time

915
00:43:23,330 --> 00:43:21,120
there was very advanced beings on this

916
00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:23,340
planet that had great levels of

917
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:26,520
technological sophistication and there

918
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:27,810
were other people who had rather

919
00:43:32,570 --> 00:43:30,090
primitive level dehumanization and it

920
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:32,580
was a rather present people who maybe

921
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:35,250
was descended from and brought back

922
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:38,940
tales of those peoples that's more

923
00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:42,030
sophisticated lands and more

924
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,030
sophisticated civilizations and beings

925
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:48,000
and called them God's called them Giants

926
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:51,720
and and created the myth of Atlantis and

927
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:54,390
so forth and so on but I do believe that

928
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,570
I do believe in UFOs I do believe in

929
00:44:02,300 --> 00:43:59,280
ancient aliens I believe that ancient

930
00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:02,310
aliens did in fact contact us I think

931
00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:07,620
they had a play in how how the the

932
00:44:11,870 --> 00:44:10,440
destiny of the world unfolded but I

933
00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:11,880
don't believe they were coming to this

934
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:15,740
planet and viewing our civilization with

935
00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:17,610
civilization I don't believe it

936
00:44:22,940 --> 00:44:20,040
eva's technology I think there was

937
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:22,950
already plenty of technology already on

938
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:25,170
this planet when they arrived they just

939
00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:27,240
merely interacted with the existing

940
00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:29,940
hierarchy they already existed on this

941
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:33,380
planet okay what do you think of

942
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:37,920
Atlantis anything Atlantis why do you

943
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:39,810
think it was mrs. there were many lost

944
00:44:45,380 --> 00:44:42,150
civilizations of many cultures and

945
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:45,390
Atlantis like of structures and

946
00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:48,930
in culture than in civilizations I think

947
00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:53,460
that Lantis is not a unique phenomenon I

948
00:44:59,630 --> 00:44:56,190
think it existed on a global scale in

949
00:45:02,570 --> 00:44:59,640
many areas as also possibly I have two

950
00:45:04,850 --> 00:45:02,580
else's offering to us also I have to

951
00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:04,860
admit it involves of the positively de

952
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,460
was in fact a metaphor for a much

953
00:45:13,850 --> 00:45:11,040
greater selection that once existed

954
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:13,860
globally as its planet and was all wiped

955
00:45:19,490 --> 00:45:16,290
out in a great Cataclysm probably the

956
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:19,500
Great Flood well where is the first

957
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:22,350
mentioning of Atlantis and what exactly

958
00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:23,850
are they saying about it how do we

959
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,670
determine that it's not that it's not a

960
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:29,280
myth or that it's not fiction but it's

961
00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:31,110
got to be something to it when you think

962
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:33,240
about is the fact that this is not just

963
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:36,510
Plato's account skeptics like this like

964
00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:38,040
the hammer on the back did was just

965
00:45:43,730 --> 00:45:41,220
Plato who mention it that's all they'll

966
00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:43,740
say that they'll say it was just Plato

967
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:45,840
who described as there are no other

968
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:48,180
sources a no other corroborating sources

969
00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:51,180
about Atlantis but you look at my book

970
00:45:59,420 --> 00:45:55,190
you read my book my book forgotten world

971
00:46:02,360 --> 00:45:59,430
contains hundreds of dabbled of ancient

972
00:46:04,310 --> 00:46:02,370
accounts the date back ten thousand

973
00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:04,320
years in the most ancient writing days

974
00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:12,800
Atlantis like civilizations weather is

975
00:46:20,570 --> 00:46:16,380
poor Otto in the Fijian Islands or

976
00:46:26,930 --> 00:46:20,580
whether it's hella key in the ancient

977
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:26,940
Greece or whether it's um no eyes in the

978
00:46:32,810 --> 00:46:30,030
North Atlantic or pool or any of those

979
00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:32,820
other any of those other civilizations

980
00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:34,500
that have been rumored to exist

981
00:46:40,430 --> 00:46:36,780
Lemuria is another computer game I've

982
00:46:42,110 --> 00:46:40,440
heard that hundreds hundreds of examples

983
00:46:44,890 --> 00:46:42,120
of a lot sublimation destroyed by a

984
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:44,900
flood or other Cataclysm and it

985
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:47,160
predominated through nearly every

986
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:49,110
culture on the planet every culture on

987
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:53,160
the planet has at least one reference to

988
00:46:59,150 --> 00:46:55,770
a lost civilization that was destroyed

989
00:47:01,970 --> 00:46:59,160
in the great Cataclysm our own Bible

990
00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:01,980
as the perfect example death there was

991
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:04,740
an aunt aloo antediluvian civilization

992
00:47:10,070 --> 00:47:06,510
that was destroyed in a great flood it

993
00:47:13,820 --> 00:47:10,080
has one single example even Mesopotamia

994
00:47:15,050 --> 00:47:13,830
at their own right oh well here's

995
00:47:17,090 --> 00:47:15,060
another thing what do you think about

996
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:17,100
the Great Pyramid because I've heard

997
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:18,720
everything from the idea that there was

998
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:19,680
some type of tool to achieve

999
00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:21,420
enlightenment and they worked on energy

1000
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:23,220
centers in the body to the idea that

1001
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:25,110
there was some type of energy generators

1002
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,150
why can't we nail this down that it's

1003
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:30,000
not an expert on the great pyramid but I

1004
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:32,490
think this is a big possibility that

1005
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,250
there is much more to the history and

1006
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:38,160
the origins of the Great Pyramid

1007
00:47:45,830 --> 00:47:43,110
then mr. vanning washed and tended to

1008
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:45,840
believe before he was ousted and they

1009
00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:47,970
keep the pyramids very under wraps than

1010
00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:50,670
the title charity what you think that

1011
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:52,680
the natural wonder of humanity would be

1012
00:47:58,540 --> 00:47:54,900
able to explore these things yeah and

1013
00:48:01,100 --> 00:47:58,550
there'd be no problems with finding out

1014
00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:01,110
radically different ID Eric Andy is the

1015
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:03,180
resistance in the resistance that

1016
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:06,390
evolved into its own conspiracy and I

1017
00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:08,190
think that that's a perfect example of

1018
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:12,300
how that happens and it along I didn't

1019
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:14,010
want their they don't want their

1020
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:18,900
prestige as a nation who has who had the

1021
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:22,110
ability to create these great structures

1022
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:24,570
that needed no other outside influence

1023
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:27,420
from Atlantis or any other civilization

1024
00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:29,970
to create it a one maintain is as an

1025
00:48:38,060 --> 00:48:33,960
Egyptian discovers a distant adventure

1026
00:48:42,370 --> 00:48:38,070
and Egyptian miracle of wonder so they

1027
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:42,380
can claim a trap own and also it

1028
00:48:47,690 --> 00:48:45,090
interferes with the long-held beliefs of

1029
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:47,700
modern Egyptologists and they don't want

1030
00:48:51,710 --> 00:48:49,290
to give up their prestige I mean why

1031
00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:51,720
wouldn't they I mean if someone came to

1032
00:48:59,140 --> 00:48:55,020
you and said you know if I came to you

1033
00:49:01,220 --> 00:48:59,150
did the higher side is full of [\h__\h] I

1034
00:49:05,090 --> 00:49:01,230
say probably right most of the time

1035
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:05,100
tickle I had some skeptical debunk see

1036
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:08,550
of your show wouldn't you not uh would

1037
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:10,710
you not have resistance to that and

1038
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:12,780
that's what they're having too

1039
00:49:19,850 --> 00:49:16,530
- people like diancie West who I think

1040
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:19,860
about it was a hero yeah fight against

1041
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:22,770
the paradigm and Robert Schoch my good

1042
00:49:28,070 --> 00:49:24,930
friend who wrote a foreword to my book

1043
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:28,080
forgotten world who is a hero who is a

1044
00:49:37,580 --> 00:49:32,880
martyr who is who is the most I think

1045
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:37,590
the most bearings of modern academics

1046
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:40,490
who can who compete her on a level

1047
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:44,250
between modern academia and this new

1048
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:48,270
alternative way of thinking was it funny

1049
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:49,470
that this new alternative way of

1050
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:51,960
thinking this Tarun Race idea coincides

1051
00:49:55,730 --> 00:49:54,210
with the idea of a resource-based

1052
00:49:58,940 --> 00:49:55,740
economy and it's all kind of coming

1053
00:50:00,080 --> 00:49:58,950
together this year I've heard more about

1054
00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:00,090
it this year than any other year

1055
00:50:06,830 --> 00:50:03,150
previously I know my sample size is

1056
00:50:11,540 --> 00:50:06,840
small at 27 but I do feel like it's kind

1057
00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:11,550
of interesting that we're facing almost

1058
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:12,750
it seems like we're on the brink of a

1059
00:50:16,370 --> 00:50:14,610
breakdown of our current structure and

1060
00:50:18,170 --> 00:50:16,380
at the same time you're seeing a lot of

1061
00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:18,180
people come together with new ideas and

1062
00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:21,240
a lot of those ideas involve working as

1063
00:50:27,770 --> 00:50:23,670
a global society yeah and I don't know

1064
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:27,780
if it's 2012 itself the dangers is in

1065
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:31,170
viewing us with this new sense of change

1066
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:34,350
I think that more or less in the back of

1067
00:50:39,410 --> 00:50:36,510
our mind we we were thinking about the

1068
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:39,420
day right jade is signifies a chicken or

1069
00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:41,910
anything yeah i think i think we're just

1070
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:44,430
in our own minds we're reflecting on

1071
00:50:48,860 --> 00:50:46,650
that and we're doing it almost

1072
00:50:51,020 --> 00:50:48,870
automatically without even realizing

1073
00:50:52,610 --> 00:50:51,030
what we're doing and i think the things

1074
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:52,620
me it's kind of interesting yeah because

1075
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:54,510
you look at in your think man if this

1076
00:50:58,070 --> 00:50:56,850
was to end you know what could we have

1077
00:50:59,660 --> 00:50:58,080
done better and then you start thinking

1078
00:51:02,780 --> 00:50:59,670
man we should we should really fix some

1079
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:02,790
of this [\h__\h] actually yeah but you're

1080
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:03,690
exactly right

1081
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:08,880
oh yeah it's an interesting thing um now

1082
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:11,550
tell me about this Mexico trip you got

1083
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:13,530
coming up in 2013 because that seems

1084
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:17,040
pretty interesting yes yes I would plan

1085
00:51:22,220 --> 00:51:19,710
on going down to Mexico and that's been

1086
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:22,230
put on hold so the reason did put on

1087
00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:23,090
hold

1088
00:51:26,430 --> 00:51:25,230
unfortunately and I feel really bad

1089
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:26,440
about this

1090
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:29,710
I hadn't put that a-hole because the guy

1091
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:34,450
who runs this run steed touring company

1092
00:51:43,710 --> 00:51:39,010
is a Mormon and once he got wind of the

1093
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:43,720
fire yeah my views my views on the way I

1094
00:51:48,839 --> 00:51:46,930
the way I believe you know he said he

1095
00:51:52,349 --> 00:51:48,849
doesn't wanna deal with you basically ah

1096
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:52,359
that's how that [\h__\h] in she did oh

1097
00:51:56,970 --> 00:51:54,490
yeah I mean I was looking at that trip I

1098
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:56,980
was thinking about that trip yeah it's a

1099
00:52:02,760 --> 00:51:59,920
great trip but you know yeah doesn't

1100
00:52:08,819 --> 00:52:02,770
want to do with that but anyhow so

1101
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:08,829
basically um I do think that good news

1102
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:11,680
is uh all this it is just a big India

1103
00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:14,559
trip planned okay yeah our discovery

1104
00:52:20,010 --> 00:52:17,470
going down in India we are actually my

1105
00:52:22,829 --> 00:52:20,020
friend Akshay and I who is a native of

1106
00:52:24,809 --> 00:52:22,839
India we're going to go down there and

1107
00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:24,819
we're going to spend two months just

1108
00:52:30,450 --> 00:52:27,220
traveling around India documenting all

1109
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:30,460
the ancient sites all the culture and

1110
00:52:36,269 --> 00:52:33,490
when that's done we're going to those

1111
00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:36,279
tapes are going to provide the

1112
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,470
promotional material as we're then going

1113
00:52:42,779 --> 00:52:40,480
to make into a small documentary a

1114
00:52:45,859 --> 00:52:42,789
series of short documentaries that we're

1115
00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:45,869
going to put on YouTube these Alaniz

1116
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:47,799
productions we're going to have a

1117
00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:50,770
touring company oh that's nice so now

1118
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:52,750
you can you can bypass that Morman and

1119
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:55,839
just start your own exactly and that's

1120
00:53:01,140 --> 00:52:57,430
what we're going to do and once we get

1121
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:01,150
that thing going with the Indian side of

1122
00:53:05,609 --> 00:53:03,670
it we're going to go back to Mesoamerica

1123
00:53:07,019 --> 00:53:05,619
and we're going to go back to Peru and

1124
00:53:07,650 --> 00:53:07,029
we're going to have our own tour there

1125
00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:07,660
as well

1126
00:53:11,789 --> 00:53:09,220
now that's what I would like to do

1127
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:11,799
because there you can go to these sites

1128
00:53:15,740 --> 00:53:13,690
that I'd really like to go to Peru but

1129
00:53:18,089 --> 00:53:15,750
then I think about if I were to go there

1130
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:18,099
I would probably be getting a

1131
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:20,770
conventional tour and it really wouldn't

1132
00:53:25,049 --> 00:53:22,210
be as interested yeah

1133
00:53:27,809 --> 00:53:25,059
no nobody so that's I think that's a

1134
00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:27,819
great idea you got to start a touring

1135
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:32,230
company that focuses on the alternative

1136
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,569
size all these stories yeah and these

1137
00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:37,119
crazy sites and pointing out what about

1138
00:53:42,059 --> 00:53:39,400
these sites is so

1139
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:42,069
saying you know that's what I'd like to

1140
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:44,079
see I want to hear to our guy just be

1141
00:53:47,130 --> 00:53:45,970
like oh yeah that's kind of a mystery we

1142
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:47,140
don't really know much about it you know

1143
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:49,210
I'd like now if you could Grammy and

1144
00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:52,329
talking on that is a unique perspective

1145
00:53:58,859 --> 00:53:55,980
of the whole thing I'm trying

1146
00:54:00,539 --> 00:53:58,869
now you mentioned alien interaction and

1147
00:54:02,339 --> 00:54:00,549
I've heard you talk about crop circles

1148
00:54:04,289 --> 00:54:02,349
before do you think that aliens are

1149
00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:04,299
interacting with us in some capacity

1150
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:07,150
today I have no doubts and aliens are

1151
00:54:11,789 --> 00:54:08,710
interacting with us at some capacity

1152
00:54:14,089 --> 00:54:11,799
today I think the evidence is

1153
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:14,099
overwhelming and I think damn sure that

1154
00:54:19,799 --> 00:54:16,960
the governments are concealing much

1155
00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:19,809
about it here we go again with the

1156
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:22,920
concealing um yeah how do you think

1157
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:24,730
here's enough bring me back to the

1158
00:54:31,289 --> 00:54:26,910
pyramids but do you think that there's a

1159
00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:31,299
group of people above those that are you

1160
00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:33,400
know keeping things traditional and

1161
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:35,740
keeping that heightened security on the

1162
00:54:39,299 --> 00:54:37,930
pyramids keeping the lid on discovery in

1163
00:54:40,829 --> 00:54:39,309
this yeah I think there's a group of

1164
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,839
people above them who know what they

1165
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:43,119
really were I think it's the government

1166
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:45,910
of India and I'm sure that there's even

1167
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:49,390
a smaller end play above the government

1168
00:54:53,579 --> 00:54:52,210
that is somehow influencing their

1169
00:54:56,430 --> 00:54:53,589
decisions I don't really necessarily

1170
00:54:58,170 --> 00:54:56,440
mean one of those Illuminati type

1171
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:58,180
conspiracies but I do think that there

1172
00:55:03,630 --> 00:55:00,400
is some small group or some special

1173
00:55:05,490 --> 00:55:03,640
interest group is ultimately influencing

1174
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:05,500
what they're doing now what do you think

1175
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:07,240
their motive is is their motive to just

1176
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:10,720
keep things as they are I do what

1177
00:55:16,829 --> 00:55:13,089
they're trying to do Karl

1178
00:55:21,150 --> 00:55:16,839
Greg rather is that I think what you're

1179
00:55:23,549 --> 00:55:21,160
trying to do is keep it very Egyptian I

1180
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:23,559
think it's a matter of national pride I

1181
00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:26,049
also think it's a matter of Egyptologist

1182
00:55:31,289 --> 00:55:28,240
pride I don't think you want to ever

1183
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:31,299
give up their monopoly their their right

1184
00:55:38,339 --> 00:55:34,210
to determine history I think that's a

1185
00:55:41,250 --> 00:55:38,349
natural human impulse to want to

1186
00:55:42,809 --> 00:55:41,260
preserve their side of it I mean you

1187
00:55:45,089 --> 00:55:42,819
just look at the religions throughout

1188
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:45,099
history it's been a nature they want to

1189
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:48,220
preserve their view any other view damn

1190
00:55:55,810 --> 00:55:53,110
be it fair

1191
00:55:58,270 --> 00:55:55,820
do you think they've made discoveries

1192
00:56:00,820 --> 00:55:58,280
inside the pyramids that they are hiding

1193
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:00,830
or do you think they're just out I had

1194
00:56:05,410 --> 00:56:02,930
no doubt I would not be surprised that

1195
00:56:06,220 --> 00:56:05,420
they've got many things which would blow

1196
00:56:09,550 --> 00:56:06,230
brother

1197
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:09,560
yeah well mainly found it and kind of

1198
00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:12,050
had an idea of where it was leading to

1199
00:56:15,550 --> 00:56:14,360
and they said I were to suck in the

1200
00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:15,560
touch since we're not sure we're not

1201
00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:18,350
going down that road yeah yeah I think

1202
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:20,630
that in many cases that's that's the

1203
00:56:25,450 --> 00:56:23,090
situation they don't want to know

1204
00:56:29,350 --> 00:56:25,460
themselves about the destiny of mankind

1205
00:56:31,210 --> 00:56:29,360
and the history of mankind and in the

1206
00:56:33,610 --> 00:56:31,220
whole Terran race theory which is

1207
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:33,620
Alberta I think not necessarily with me

1208
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,690
but with the whole community of the

1209
00:56:39,610 --> 00:56:38,000
earth like my wife Sharon what is what's

1210
00:56:43,570 --> 00:56:39,620
Terran why Terran race

1211
00:56:46,510 --> 00:56:43,580
okay well Terran Terra is the goddess of

1212
00:56:50,830 --> 00:56:46,520
in ancient goddess of the earth

1213
00:56:57,070 --> 00:56:50,840
Terra and for a long period of time

1214
00:57:00,820 --> 00:56:57,080
Terra was a reference to the earth okay

1215
00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:00,830
now in the 20th century many of the

1216
00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:04,430
existing visionary writers and some of

1217
00:57:09,370 --> 00:57:06,200
them were science fiction writers began

1218
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:09,380
using the term Karen simply to describe

1219
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:13,610
the aura the with a word which meant

1220
00:57:20,220 --> 00:57:16,880
earthling and in their literature but I

1221
00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:20,230
took it as almost a racial

1222
00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:24,440
identification in racial idea an idea

1223
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:28,550
that we have a nationalism at hand which

1224
00:57:34,330 --> 00:57:31,760
is not related to a nation-state we have

1225
00:57:36,790 --> 00:57:34,340
a racialism which is not related to any

1226
00:57:38,740 --> 00:57:36,800
specific ethnic group or race but a

1227
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:38,750
racialism of the planet and the

1228
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:41,090
racialism of the entire species a

1229
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:44,030
feeling that we are one people and that

1230
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:46,910
we need to create a state which will

1231
00:57:51,610 --> 00:57:49,760
embrace all people of Terran blood okay

1232
00:57:53,860 --> 00:57:51,620
that I'll be by doing that will we ever

1233
00:57:56,830 --> 00:57:53,870
have the moral justification to go forth

1234
00:58:00,210 --> 00:57:56,840
and comments our destiny which is to go

1235
00:58:03,580 --> 00:58:00,220
back to space and basically you know

1236
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:03,590
space is the promised land and we are

1237
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:06,890
the chosen people not Jews but the you

1238
00:58:13,630 --> 00:58:11,930
right Jojen people I hear you I mean do

1239
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:13,640
you think there's extraterrestrials that

1240
00:58:18,009 --> 00:58:15,410
are trying to help us realize that I

1241
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:18,019
mean I say you gets the Jews personally

1242
00:58:21,789 --> 00:58:20,089
what I'm just saying is that they may be

1243
00:58:23,259 --> 00:58:21,799
the chosen people but we're the greater

1244
00:58:25,660 --> 00:58:23,269
chosen people gotcha

1245
00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:25,670
priest is the greater chosen people

1246
00:58:30,460 --> 00:58:27,430
there might be some issues in their

1247
00:58:33,870 --> 00:58:30,470
identity greater than ourselves to build

1248
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:33,880
as does fate in space gotcha

1249
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:35,650
how do you think there are

1250
00:58:38,650 --> 00:58:37,250
extraterrestrials that are they trying

1251
00:58:42,339 --> 00:58:38,660
to budge us along

1252
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:42,349
Kyle just a second I think that crop

1253
00:58:46,450 --> 00:58:44,329
circles or through other man searching I

1254
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,460
don't think it to crop circle lighting

1255
00:58:50,190 --> 00:58:48,319
crop circles are probably some type of

1256
00:58:53,650 --> 00:58:50,200
identification of that alien

1257
00:58:57,099 --> 00:58:53,660
intelligence but I think that I think

1258
00:59:01,809 --> 00:58:57,109
that a cattle prod yeah I can tell pry

1259
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:01,819
but I think that I think that rehab you

1260
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:05,920
know examples of our being monitored by

1261
00:59:12,190 --> 00:59:09,170
extraterrestrials perhaps they see the

1262
00:59:15,069 --> 00:59:12,200
potential in us and want us to continue

1263
00:59:17,650 --> 00:59:15,079
on that great cosmic path which I think

1264
00:59:20,349 --> 00:59:17,660
was put forth by the Creator a very long

1265
00:59:23,710 --> 00:59:20,359
time ago I've seen some really

1266
00:59:27,130 --> 00:59:23,720
interesting stuff on crop circles and I

1267
00:59:29,380 --> 00:59:27,140
love the idea of crop circles being real

1268
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:29,390
but just recently I don't know if you

1269
00:59:34,539 --> 00:59:32,329
saw this um it really didn't make much

1270
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:34,549
of a splash in the conspiracy sense but

1271
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:37,490
it was a guy who with snowshoes made all

1272
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:41,049
these super intricate crop circles that

1273
00:59:48,009 --> 00:59:43,730
the thing about that is there are very

1274
00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:48,019
big very - example of faced crop circles

1275
00:59:52,930 --> 00:59:49,910
and they're very prevalent throughout

1276
00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:52,940
the whole example of crop circles but

1277
00:59:57,759 --> 00:59:54,859
the interesting is is that there are

1278
01:00:00,039 --> 00:59:57,769
many more examples of inexplicable and

1279
01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:00,049
unexplained crop circles or make some

1280
01:00:05,650 --> 01:00:02,750
unexplained well some more intricate

1281
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:05,660
crop circles and in the basket into

1282
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:08,960
certain areas where where the wheat is

1283
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:11,839
seem to be burned or cinders and as

1284
01:00:18,569 --> 01:00:16,250
they're examples of odd things going out

1285
01:00:20,539 --> 01:00:18,579
inside the crop circles themselves like

1286
01:00:22,999 --> 01:00:20,549
like

1287
01:00:25,999 --> 01:00:23,009
phones not working radiation weird

1288
01:00:28,130 --> 01:00:26,009
radiation on it odd feelings of people

1289
01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:28,140
having erections when they walk into all

1290
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:31,380
well yeah so you know there's definitely

1291
01:00:34,849 --> 01:00:33,209
definitely something strange going on

1292
01:00:37,069 --> 01:00:34,859
there which hints that they're real I

1293
01:00:39,919 --> 01:00:37,079
can't really say for certain because I

1294
01:00:42,169 --> 01:00:39,929
would rather look expert who is site

1295
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:42,179
it's more cell and more in-depth than

1296
01:00:47,870 --> 01:00:45,689
myself say that but I would I would

1297
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:47,880
assume that there's something more to

1298
01:00:51,529 --> 01:00:49,650
crop circle than just bunch of guys

1299
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:51,539
going out with snow dude trying to make

1300
01:00:59,959 --> 01:00:56,130
a make a funny design crops I would hope

1301
01:01:02,870 --> 01:00:59,969
so because they tie into New Age stuff

1302
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:02,880
the New Age conspiracy a lot in that

1303
01:01:08,809 --> 01:01:06,689
they say that their sacred geometry may

1304
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:08,819
you know fourth dimensional geometry on

1305
01:01:11,689 --> 01:01:10,410
a two-dimensional plane to create a

1306
01:01:13,339 --> 01:01:11,699
three-dimensional image it's supposed to

1307
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:13,349
affect our consciousness and some type

1308
01:01:18,009 --> 01:01:16,410
of positive way and make us vibrate and

1309
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:18,019
be all happy and want to get along

1310
01:01:24,469 --> 01:01:21,089
that's what a lot of the New Age people

1311
01:01:27,339 --> 01:01:24,479
kind of push out and it's a good idea it

1312
01:01:29,319 --> 01:01:27,349
sounds cool but I don't necessarily see

1313
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:29,329
how it works

1314
01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:32,249
but uh you know I like the idea that

1315
01:01:35,390 --> 01:01:34,140
there's an alien race out there trying

1316
01:01:39,370 --> 01:01:35,400
to not just in the right direction

1317
01:01:41,929 --> 01:01:39,380
because I really do think we're stuck

1318
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:41,939
yeah that's why we have to get off this

1319
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:43,529
planet we're only going to achieve our

1320
01:01:47,269 --> 01:01:44,640
full potential once we're a

1321
01:01:49,549 --> 01:01:47,279
multiplanetary mold by stellar species

1322
01:01:52,609 --> 01:01:49,559
and that should be our primary objective

1323
01:01:54,439 --> 01:01:52,619
right now people often say oh we can't

1324
01:01:57,919 --> 01:01:54,449
do that we're just going to trash the

1325
01:01:59,959 --> 01:01:57,929
galaxy m82 we're just going to make all

1326
01:02:02,989 --> 01:01:59,969
the problems it's based on making earth

1327
01:02:05,059 --> 01:02:02,999
that's why before we do this we began

1328
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:05,069
fear that we're going to make change on

1329
01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:07,410
this planet once we make that change

1330
01:02:11,179 --> 01:02:08,910
then we will have the moral

1331
01:02:15,229 --> 01:02:11,189
justification to go board and pursue our

1332
01:02:18,019 --> 01:02:15,239
destiny but it is our destiny and we

1333
01:02:19,969 --> 01:02:18,029
must fulfill it now I got one more

1334
01:02:22,819 --> 01:02:19,979
question for you because we're coming up

1335
01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:22,829
on the hour but you've seen the work

1336
01:02:26,479 --> 01:02:24,420
that Richard Hoagland done on the moon

1337
01:02:29,419 --> 01:02:26,489
you I mean not the moon with a moon -

1338
01:02:32,929 --> 01:02:29,429
are mainly Mars the face on Mars - donia

1339
01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:32,939
the pyramid shapes on Mars what do you

1340
01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:33,750
think about that

1341
01:02:38,270 --> 01:02:35,940
I think it's a fascinating possibility

1342
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:38,280
and I love to research it more maybe

1343
01:02:42,050 --> 01:02:41,040
make a book out of it is that coming

1344
01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:42,060
after the Dragons

1345
01:02:54,170 --> 01:02:45,359
it could be is that how we got here on

1346
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:54,180
dragon back yeah we'll have a Sean

1347
01:03:00,560 --> 01:02:56,930
Connery speaking chorus as well

1348
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well Pat I I'm like that we got to do

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this what you're working on the dragon

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book now are there any conferences

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coming up or anything anything

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interesting yeah yeah we're gonna have a

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conference at the International

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Conference on each of America and on

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September 21st to 23rd in Marquette

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Michigan and I'll be there and I'll be

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speaking nice cup where of course your

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website would be a great place for

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people to get information on what you're

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working on you also have a newsletter

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out you still doing that yeah we're

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putting together a newsletter gods and

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aliens magazine.com we're gonna have a

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newsletter for that and we're also gonna

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have another newsletter or patch in our

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comm which we're trying to read through

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the site right now as it exists

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we're gotten - worldcom is probably

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going to continue now for the rest of

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the remainder of the year and it'll

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probably go to put it on put all that

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information on to the new site we're

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developing and just discontinued

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forgotten - world's about um it's kind

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of running its course all right well uh

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you know thanks again yeah you buy my

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book it's coming out and I recommend

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everyone to read that because it is is a

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embodiment of my views and my ideas so

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01:04:27,260 --> 01:04:22,320
definitely buy it and it'll be available

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on bookstores as well as our amazon.com

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01:04:31,849 --> 01:04:29,070
just split out chytrid patrick simard

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01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:31,859
you'll find all my books online on

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Amazon that time

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01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:36,730
you heard him folk Alec fashion art

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say that pretty girl over there I wanna

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- yeah